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- From: eraugust@igate1.hac.com (Eric R. Augustine)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: Walker vs. the $999 7200/75 w/4xCD!
- Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 09:10:17 -0800
- Organization: HAC
- Message-ID: <eraugust-2803960910170001@sbdsk0838.sbrc.hac.com>
- References: <1996Mar26.121829.53605@cobra.uni.edu> <4j9np0$aam@flood.xnet.com> <315983E9.2818@p3.enzian.com> <eraugust-2703961138190001@sbdsk0838.sbrc.hac.com> <1996Mar27.222703.53639@cobra.uni.edu>
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- In article <1996Mar27.222703.53639@cobra.uni.edu>,
- sinclap2954@cobra.uni.edu (PETER SINCLAIR-DAY) wrote:
-
- > In article <eraugust-2703961138190001@sbdsk0838.sbrc.hac.com>,
- eraugust@igate1.hac.com (Eric R. Augustine) writes:
- > > In article <315983E9.2818@p3.enzian.com>, Jude Anthony
- > > <jude@p3.enzian.com> wrote:
- > >
- > >> Oh, Jason, I expected so much more:
- > >> >
- > >> > PETER SINCLAIR-DAY (sinclap2954@cobra.uni.edu) wrote:
- > >> >
- > >> > : Today, the PowerMac 7200/75 8/500/4xcd is $999(official)!! 3 PCI,
- > > memory and
- > >> > : Vram slots for $999! The 7200 does more...costs less...
- > >> >
- > >> > But owning one means we have to be associated with you. And that's
- > >> > really unpleasant.
- > >> > I don't like him either, but I expected the Editor-in-Chief to have a
- > >> better rebuttal, like "you have to buy the Mac keyboard and Monitor
- > >> separately" (if that's still true), or "the Mac doesn't have composite
- > >> video out," or _anything_ better than straight insults.
- > >
- > > Well - if you read enough of Mr. Day's posts - after a while you
- > > realize that that is all he is really after - since the only
- > > company Mr. Day has is that Mac of his...
- > >
- > > Still - the 'does more' is really a matter of opinion. After all
- > > I'd prefer to do several things at once - and not have them die.
- > > (like they do so very often on the 7200's and 7500's we have here)
- > > Which is really only possible on the Amiga - or a much more expensive
- > > workstation - and I do mean WORKSTATION. Mr Day would probably call
- > > his Mac a workstation - but it's more like a 'PlayStation'... Though
- > > you can't reliably even 'play' on a mac. Mr Day is a rather 'fantastic'
- > > person... he lives in fantasy - and enjoys raking up argument since
- > > that is the ONLY way he can get any attention in this world.
- >
- > Be real..What software do you run on the Amiga that compares to the Powermac
- > platform?
-
- Absolutely everything I use on the Amiga outdoes what is available
- for any mac. Faster than your PoorMac on my 030. The damned PPC
- is a crippled chip to begin with - add a crippled MacOS and hardware
- which can't dma properly and you've got the picture. I've run them
- side-by-side here. The IIci is significantly more reliable and useful
- than the ppc macs and we all know the Amiga is light years ahead of
- any of the 68k macs.
-
- > The currently availabe Amiga in NA is the A4000T which costs
- > $2800 and has sold poorly. The market has rejected it due
- > antiquity of the technology and the outrageaous price.
-
- The only thing that survives from the old days of Amiga is the lack of
- advertising in the US. Go to Europe some time. It is not rejected due
- to any of the reasons you present - it is rejected for the very reason
- the Mac survives. Advertising. You don't advertise in the US you don't
- sell. The Mac is hype - and only hype.
-
- If you want to compare machines on a performace base - where it really
- matters in the world - then you have nothing to stand on at all and you
- know this. The PPC stands on ratings and naming itself 'RISC'. It's
- not exactly a RISC chip now is it? The Mac is attempting to get on the
- RISC wagon by using the one-interrupt-wonder as a selling platform...
- Slap a bunch of numbers on a product and throw in a few abbreviations
- and then say it's fast (even though it can't really do everything the
- 68k chips could though it's quite a bit better than the Pentium... That's
- another joke altogether) and NA (as you put it) will buy it. Add a
- few monopolies in the software industry to force people into a set
- platform and you've sealed it. One doesn't need the truth to make
- a buck - in fact people don't really seem to want the truth...
-
-
- > AT is dreaming if it thinks the Walker will fly with an 030 in NA
- > ...Anything less than a 040, you might as well not bother..
-
- Well - the 040 has a broken MMU. Next to the PPC the 040 is the
- saddest thing that Motorola produces. The 030 and the 060 are probably
- the last of the good labeled CISC chips we will see for a while.
- Until marketing somewhere decides that RISC is out and CISC is back
- in.
-
- .trog--
-